Yes, the Taiwan repatriation does seem similar to reintroducing proso to Mongolia and Turkey, except I sent varieties developed by Nebraska, which may, or may not have had ancestral lines from early 20th-century Asia…..Gary
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>   1. Shade tolerance in millets (example of foxtail millet)
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>   2. Re: Shade tolerance in millets (example of foxtail millet)
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>   3. Millet culture & cuisine in Taiwan, & repatriation of foxtail
>      millet (Don Osborn)
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> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:37:13 -0400
> From: Don Osborn <don@milletsalliance.org>
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> Subject: [Collab] Shade tolerance in millets (example of foxtail
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> In a recent posting about browntop millet, I noted a mention of that
> millet's apparent shade tolerance.* This trait is not something I've seen
> discussed for any grain before - and my assumption was that one always grew
> grains in full sunlight.
>
> Well, I have since come across this study of shade tolerance in foxtail
> millet, where it is grown in an agroforestry system with Chinese chestnut:
> Liu Dan, Cui Yanjiao, Zhao Zilong, Zhang Jing, Li Suying and Liu Zhengli.
> 2022. "Transcriptome analysis and mining of genes related to shade
> tolerance in foxtail millet (Setaria italica (L.) P. Beauv.)." Royal
> Society Open Science. 9:220953 https://doi.org/10.1098/rsos.220953
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> Is this a trait that appears in millets other than browntop and foxtail?
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> Don Osborn, PhD
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> From: Joni Kindwall-Moore <joni@snacktivistfoods.com>
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> Fascinating find Don thanks
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>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 7:37?AM Don Osborn <don@milletsalliance.org> wrote:
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>> In a recent posting about browntop millet, I noted a mention of that
>> millet's apparent shade tolerance.* This trait is not something I've seen
>> discussed for any grain before - and my assumption was that one always grew
>> grains in full sunlight.
>>
>> Well, I have since come across this study of shade tolerance in foxtail
>> millet, where it is grown in an agroforestry system with Chinese chestnut:
>> Liu Dan, Cui Yanjiao, Zhao Zilong, Zhang Jing, Li Suying and Liu Zhengli.
>> 2022. "Transcriptome analysis and mining of genes related to shade
>> tolerance in foxtail millet (Setaria italica (L.) P. Beauv.)." Royal
>> Society Open Science. 9:220953 https://doi.org/10.1098/rsos.220953
>>
>> Is this a trait that appears in millets other than browntop and foxtail?
>>
>>
>> Don Osborn, PhD
>> (East Lansing, MI, US)
>> North American Millets Alliance
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>> Note:
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> From: Don Osborn <don@milletsalliance.org>
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> Subject: [Collab] Millet culture & cuisine in Taiwan, & repatriation
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> Here are two items on millets in Taiwan - a survey article on the subject,
> which mentions six millets and how they are used, and a video on
> "repatriation" of varieties of foxtail millet originally from Taiwan
> (thanks to David Brenner for sharing the latter).
>
> THE ARTICLE & ABSTRACT
>
> Takei, Emiko. (2013). Millet Culture and Indigenous Cuisine in Taiwan.
> Proceedings of the 2013 International Conference on Chinese Food Culture.
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/267747587_Millet_Culture_and_Indigenous_Cuisine_in_Taiwan
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> "Millets (small grain crops) have been important in many ways for Taiwanese
> indigenous people. They have served as staple foods along with upland rice,
> taro, and sweet potato. Historically, millets had a higher status in
> rituals than rice. Recently, foxtail millet has become a symbolic food for
> Taiwanese indigenous people in most regions of Taiwan. Botanically, millets
> in Taiwan include introduced and endemic species. Five species, foxtail
> millet?? (Setaria italica), sorghum ?? (Sorghum bicolor), common millet ?
> (Panicum miliaceum), finger millet ?? (Eleusine coracana), and Job?s tears
> ?? (Coix lacryma-jobi subsp. ma-yuen) are thought to be introduced. Taiwan
> oil millet ???? (Spodiopogon formosanus = Eccoilopus formosanus) appears to
> be an endemic domesticate in Taiwan. This little known millet was confused
> with other cereal crops for almost a century since it was first botanically
> identified. The main uses of millets are for food (starch), alcohol
> production and fermentation with meat and fish (which can then be stored).
> Glutinous varieties of foxtail millet, common millet and sorghum are used
> for making sticky cakes (pounded or steamed). Although some community
> leaders have tried to promote foxtail millet cultivation, most local
> varieties have already disappeared, and other millet species (especially
> finger millet and oil millet) are endangered. To help preserve millets and
> millet culture, the conservation of genetic resources and further
> documentation of folk knowledge are desired."
>
> THE VIDEO
>
> "Diverse millet seeds are brought home to Taiwan after 30 years," Taiwan
> News Formosa TV, 23 Oct. 2022 (11:17)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyx13QCKk1M
>
> "Thirty years ago, an American researcher brought millet seeds from Taiwan
> to a food bank in the U.S. Now, Taiwanese researcher Kuo Hua-jen has
> brought those seeds back home as part of the efforts to ensure a diverse
> food supply. The seeds? return was met with great fanfare, but there is
> concern that excitement could fizzle out, since millet is not a lucrative
> crop in Taiwan, and there is little motivation to grow it. Kuo and others
> hope to find ways to add value to the crop, to ensure it survives."
>
> The actual repatriation happened in 2011:
> https://grin-u.org/diverse-millet-seeds-are-brought-home-to-taiwan-after-30-years/
>
> The American researcher in question was Dr. Wayne H. Fogg:
> https://www.registerguard.com/obituaries/p0171729
>
> (This dynamic of bringing back varieties of a millet reminds of Gary's
> experience taking proso millet varieties from the US back to Mongolia and
> Turkey.)
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> Don Osborn, PhD
> (East Lansing, MI, US)
> North American Millets Alliance
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