I just listened to the whole episode of Joni and Craig’s podcast discussing breeding, agronomics, market development, healthiness, and regenerative future of proso millet. I wished every North American farmer and processor would take 45 minutes for this  proso education. They won’t. Some will. Opportunity awaits those who do….Gary

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>      millet? (Don Osborn)
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> From: Don Osborn <don@milletsalliance.org>
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> Subject: [Collab] 2 recent podcasts on millets
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> Here are a couple of podcasts from this past May that focus on one or more
> millets:
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> 1) "Pioneering Water-Efficient Crops with Craig Anderson," Regenerative by
> Design, 30 May 2024 (43:50) https://share.transistor.fm/s/5dab04bf
> (Podcast host, Snacktivist founder, and NAMA co-founder Joni Kindwall-Moore
> interviewed Dryland Genetics COO Craig Anderson about his organization's
> research on improved varieties of proso millet as a crop. This is a very
> interesting and informative conversation that also considered various uses
> of proso - including, but not limited to food and feed - and what it will
> take to increase interest in and opportunities with it.)
> Regenerative by Design is Joni's podcast, and its homepage is at:
> https://www.regenbydesign.info/
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> 2) "Modernising Millets and Embracing Traditional Foods," Future Fork, 6
> May 2024 (23:54) https://omny.fm/shows/future-fork/anahita-dhondy
> (Chef's Manifesto founder and SDG2 Advocacy Hub CEO Paul Newnham
> interviewed Chef Anahita Dhondy, a noted chef, author, and food advocate in
> India. Chef Anahita was one of the featured chefs at the G20 meeting in New
> Delhi in Sept. 2023. The podcast begins with personal background, shifts to
> millets at ~4:00, and then her favorite millets to cook with - finger
> millet, sorghum, and foxtail millet - at ~14:00)
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> Don Osborn, PhD
> (East Lansing, MI, US)
> North American Millets Alliance
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> From: Don Osborn <don@milletsalliance.org>
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> Thank you, David, this information is appreciated.
>
> It would be amazing if after over a century, accessions of the tall 'anki
> had somehow been maintained in USDA's holdings (thru growing and harvesting
> at intervals?), but not expected.
>
> I find it interesting that Casteller and Bell mention a lost
> semi-cultivated grain plant called in the Mojave language "ankithi." The
> superficial similarity with the "anki" that has been identified as an
> Echinochloa (E. crus-galli) makes me wonder if the word composition points
> to a resemblance in form or habitat. But that's pure speculation.
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> All the best,
>
> Don
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> DO, EL, MI, US
> NAMA
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>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 11:27?AM Brenner, David (CTR) - REE-ARS <
>> david.brenner@usda.gov> wrote:
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> We have one accession of domesticated *Panicum hirticaule* in the US
>> National plant Germplasm System (PI 654448) and could accession more if
>> someone has them.
>> https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/accessiondetail?id=1705671
>>
>> We have diverse wild and grain *Echinochloa* but I think none that
>> exactly match the description below.
>>
>> David Brenner
>> NC7
>>
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>> *From:* Collab <collab-bounces@lists.millets2023.space> on behalf of Don
>> Osborn <don@milletsalliance.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2024 10:05 AM
>> *To:* collab@lists.millets2023.space <collab@lists.millets2023.space>
>> *Subject:* [External Email]Re: [Collab] Ankee or 'anki, a Mojave barnyard
>> millet?
>>
>>
>> And another follow-up:
>>
>> In response to an email to him, Dr. Gary Nabhan - who early in his career
>> was key to locating ongoing cultivation of a Panicum hirticaule cultivar in
>> Sonora, Mexico/9 - kindly indicated an older key reference on Native
>> American agriculture and food in the lower Colorado and Gila River valleys
>> - Edward Castetter and Willis Bell's 1951 "Yuman Indian Agriculture."/10
>> Among the information in that volume are mentions and a brief discussion of
>> use and management of Echinochloa crus-galli by not only the Mohave, but
>> also neighboring Native American peoples - the Yuma, Cocopa, and Maricopa.
>>
>> Basically, E. crus-galli - again in the Mojave language, 'anki - was
>> managed in tidal areas of the rivers, with the grain used for food. (Of
>> course, the main staple being varieties of corn.) There was also mention of
>> E. colona. (In literature on barnyard millet, E. crus-galli is indicated as
>> the wild form of the domesticated E. esculenta, or Japanese [barnyard]
>> millet, and E. colona the source for the domesticated E. frumentacea, or
>> Indian barnyard millet - but apparently that's still a matter of
>> discussion.) There is also mention of Panicum hirticaule.
>>
>> Interestingly, I found no mention by Castetter and Bell of the tall (7
>> ft.) variety of "ankee" described in the 1899 USDA publications cited
>> earlier./1/2 Was this variety lost to the Mohave and their neighbors? Have
>> any accessions been maintained by any USDA station?
>>
>> The flow of the Colorado River and the agro-ecology of the region
>> described in the book changed markedly after the completion of the Hoover
>> Dam (or Boulder Dam, as it was referred to in the book) in 1935  Basically
>> the seasonal flooding of riverine areas that supported traditional
>> agriculture and subsistence strategies ceased,
>>
>> DO, EL, MI, US
>> NAMA
>>
>> Notes (numbering cont'd):
>> 9. See discussion and references under "PANICUM HIRTICAULE or P. SONORUM"
>> in my post to this list on 30 Oct. 2022
>> https://lists.millets2023.space/pipermail/collab/2022-October/000090.html
>> 10. Castetter, Edward F., and Willis H. Bell, Yuman Indian Agriculture :
>> Primitive Subsistence on the Lower Colorado and Gila Rivers, University of
>> New Mexico Press, 1951. The full text of this book is accessible online at
>> https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/006771195
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 1:22?PM Don Osborn <don@milletsalliance.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> A very quick follow up. FIrst of all, erratum in the previous posting: the
>> year of publication for Thomas Williams' bulletin on millets was 1899, not
>> 1988.
>>
>> Also, whatever the fate of the Mohave 'anki millet, the "ankee" or "ankee
>> millet" name persist. It figures in Elaine Nowick's nice compilation on
>> common names for plants in the Great Plains./7 One also encounters it in
>> various webpages dealing with barnyard millet outside of North America,
>> including one at the Atlas of Living Austraila, that associates the name
>> with E. esculentis./8
>>
>> Anyway, "ankee" is part of the vocabulary of millets, which I didn't even
>> know until yesterday.
>>
>> Best to all,
>>
>> Don
>>
>> DO, EL, MI, US
>> NAMA
>>
>> Notes (numbering cont'd):
>> 7. Nowick, Elaine, Historical Common Names of Great Plains Plants, Vol 1,
>> ''Common Names'', Zea Books, 2015
>> https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/188096594.pdf
>> 8. Atlas of Living Australia, "Ankee millet" (accessed 13 July 2024)
>> bie.ala.org.au/species/https%3A//id.biodiversity.org.au/instance/apni/887000 (NB-
>> the Ohwi 1962 source cited is at
>> https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bunruichiri/20/1/20_KJ00002992741/_pdf/-char/en but
>> I do not find "ankee" in the text)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 12:36?PM Don Osborn <don@milletsalliance.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The millet-of-the-month calendar features barnyard millet(s) in July. As
>> we know, this is a complex of wild, gathered, and cultivated species in the
>> genus Echinochloa.
>>
>> While looking up some material, I came across some older discussions of
>> this group in which there was mention of "ankee" or "ankee millet." In
>> particular, three publications, using similar text and the same drawings,
>> from 1899-1901 (at the time of these publications, what we now know as
>> Echinochloa was classified as Panicum),./1/2/3 These evidently concerns an
>> Echinochloa species, likely a variety of E. crus-galli, that is very tall
>> and grown mostly in wetter or inundated soils.
>>
>> Ankee is, or was until the 1960s, grown by the Mohave / Mojave people, who
>> use(d) the grains for food./4 The name "ankee" is evidently a borrowing
>> from 'anki in their language./5
>>
>> Further research would fill out some details, including the important
>> matters of how and when ankee came to the area (E. crus-galli is described
>> as a plant from Asia), and its current status.
>>
>> Together with the so-called Sonoran millet (Panicum hirticaule) - a
>> species native to North America - ankee is another example of a millet
>> being grown by Native Americans in wetland areas bordering rivers in what
>> is now the southwest US and northwest Mexico. One should note also that the
>> Mohave people were subjected to confinement to a reservation somewhat away
>> from their native area (altho some apparently remained in their original
>> home) and were subjected to assimilationist policies after 1890./6 .
>>
>> As always, any feedback or further information is appreciated.
>>
>> Don
>>
>> Don Osborn, PhD
>> (East Lansing, MI, US)
>> North American Millets Alliance
>>
>> Notes:
>> 1. Williams, Thomas A., "Millets," Farmers' Bulletin No. 101, Government
>> Printing Office, Washington, D.C., 1988, pp. 14-15
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Millets_%28IA_CAT87201514%29.pdf
>> 2. ''Yearbook of the United States Department of Agriculture'', USGPO,
>> 1899, pp. 277-278 https://archive.org/details/yoa1898/page/277/mode/2up
>> 3. Pammel, L.H., Jules Buel Weems, and Harry Foster Bain, The Grasses of
>> Iowa, Iowa Geological Society, 1901, p. 135
>> https://archive.org/details/grassesofiowa01pamm/page/135/mode/1up
>> 4. Stewart, Kenneth M. ?Mohave Indian Gathering of Wild Plants.? ''Kiva'',
>> vol. 31, no. 1, 1965, pp. 46?53. JSTOR,
>> http://www.jstor.org/stable/30247560
>> 5. Munro, Pamela, Nellie Brown, and Julie G. Crawford, "A Mojave
>> Dictionary," UCLA Occasional Papers in Linguistics, No. 10, 1992.
>> https://linguistics.ucla.edu/publications/opl_10.pdf
>> 6. "Mohave people," Wikipedia (accessed 13 July 2024)
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohave_people
>>
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